The Coronavirus elephant in the fly-fishing room:  Is it OK to fish and should we be “promoting” fishing?

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-Kirk Deeter, Editor, Angling Trade

Admittedly, things are moving fast and my own opinions have evolved quite a bit in the past several days especially.  But one thing that really sticks out and absolutely warms my heart is the sheer class and integrity of the many people in fly fishing with whom I have talked this issue through.  We are definitely a community, and we are in it for the long haul.  There will be another side of all this, and fly fishing will be just as cool, captivating and interesting on that other side as it was before… maybe even more appreciated.  Keep the faith.

That said, I cannot count how many times in recent days I have been asked: Should we be fishing ourselves, and should we be encouraging others to fish?

I’m not brave enough to answer those questions myself.  So the first thing I did was reach out through my co-editor of Angling Trade, Tim Romano, to ask an ER physician—and avid angler—Dr. Cliff Watts. Dr Watts started working in the emergency department in 1974. After completing an Emergency Medicine Residency in Charlotte, North Carolina, he moved to Boulder, Colorado, in 1978. After many years in the Boulder Community Hospital Emergency Department, and a few years as Associate Faculty for the Denver General Emergency Medicine Residency program, and 10 years as physician advisor for over 16 volunteer EMS agencies, he ended his active career at Boulder Medical Center Urgent Care in late 2013.  Having caught his first fish at age 5, he has fished around the world from the Arctic to Patagonia, from the Kola Peninsula to Tibet. He still spends much of time helping people in need of medical information, travel questions, fishing information concerning gear and destinations, taking kids fishing, as well as having a spey rod in his hands while standing in flowing water.

We hit him with five straightforward questions, so here they are, with his responses.

1. Is it okay to fish in a “lockdown” or “shelter in place” state?  If I am completely alone, get in my vehicle, get out and fish, never encounter another human within 6 feet or more, and have a healthy (at least mentally) escape, is that cool?

Yes, I believe that is very safe.  If you are alone, the gas pump or the convenience store that you might visit on the trip is probably the most potent risk of exposure or transmission. Not the water. Not the fish. But I am unsure about ( different states’) regulations.

2. What is the max distance one should travel to fish?  Are we talking about “walk to fish?” or is it okay to drive an hour to the river if part of the isolation appeal is to keep people off the roads entirely?

I do not think driving will increase your risk or that of others as long as you follow CDC guidelines. See: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/prevention.html   Now, if you feel sick or later get sick, going too far might lead to a difficult return home.

3. How about a boat?  Like a drift boat… is there any way you see a fishing boat being a safe “socially distanced” scenario?

Most drift boats mandate the rower and the fisherperson to be less than 6 feet apart.  The person downwind of a sneeze, or a spit, would be vulnerable to “droplets” and hence there could be a significant potential to spread any virus. 

4. Assuming I can go fish, and I buy a dozen flies and a spool of tippet from my favorite fly shop (online, sent to me through the mail, or they leave it out the door), do I have to disinfect those flies and tippet somehow, and if so what is the best way to do that?

According to a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, can live in the air and on surfaces between several hours and several days. The study found that the virus is viable for up to 72 hours on plastics, 48 hours on stainless steel, 24 hours on cardboard, and 4 hours on copper. But the actual viral load decreases rapidly on most of these surfaces. Cleaning surfaces with disinfectant or soap is very effective because once the oily surface coat of the virus is disabled, the virus should not be able to infect a host cell.  The facts and science change daily.  I do believe soaking anything in 91% isopropyl alcohol or 80% ethanol (real moonshine) for 1 minute would kill any virus on a fly or tippet materials, but this might affect those materials.  Letting any of these fishing materials just sit for 72hours, should certainly make them virus free.  I would not hold fresh flies or tippets with your lips until you do so.

5. Is the virus transmitted through water?

According to the CDC, there is no evidence that COVID-19 can be spread to humans through the use of pools and hot tubs. The virus has been detected in patient’s feces, but I doubt that the virus has significant presence or danger as far as fishing waters in North America. See this link.

Okay… so let’s start there, and build out the discussion.  Based on that information, fishing seems like a healthy, safe option and a welcome diversion from all that is going on—especially if you fish as an individual (or with family members whom you share your space with), and especially if you can walk to the water, be that a local pond, or a river, etc.  I certainly wouldn’t get in a boat with someone who isn’t an immediate family member, and if we are going to do a float, I would for darn sure run my own shuttle.  But that leads us to another important question… driving to fish and how far (see question 2 above)?

I’m actually a bit more conservative on this point, and I think that driving distances to fish opens up other points of “contact” you might want to consider.  What if you get a flat tire, or heaven forbid, get in an accident driving far to fish?  Longshot, sure, but worth even a tiny risk to involve others who would have to bail you out of trouble?  I think not.

Moreover, every single rural fly shop owner and guide I have spoken with (via email or over the phone) in the past few days is in agreement that they do not want people from urban, heavily affected areas driving up and fishing in and around small communities with little or no healthcare infrastructure—certainly nothing capable of handling something of the COVID-19 magnitude.  So you are really not doing anyone in small fish-town America a favor by showing up to cast a line.  As someone living in said small fish-town America, even if some guide trips might be good for you and your business, you must also be thinking about the local convenience store, and doctors and nurses, and so on.  It’s about a lot more than you and your business.

Fly shops… manufacturers and commerce…. Well, suffice it to say that the very foundation of my professional life is encouraging people to get out and fish, and more specifically, to send them to fly shops so they can buy stuff manufacturers produce.  I’m still all-in on encouraging E-commerce, and innovative ways of getting consumers product, and information.  But there’s no sugarcoating the fact that we’re all going to take a big economic kick in the shins, from manufacturers where the layoffs have already started, to shuttered fly shops… to magazines and digital media (we’re going to keep cranking because the thirst for distraction-type content has never been greater, but we don’t know how advertisers are going to pay us either).  Guides… I absolutely love you like family, and the guide world is where my roots were sunk, going way back over 20 years to a little book called “Castwork.”

One of the guides in that book, Terry Gunn, proved to me today why he still remains a mentor and example for all of us.  He sent this to his clients:

A resounding THANKS to you and all our customers! We have seen a lot together over the years – the stock bubble of 1999, the tragedy of 9/11, The Great Recession, Government Shutdowns … but nothing like this devastating virus and its consequences.

Arizona Gov. Douglas Ducey has ordered a statewide shutdown.  Under certain conditions, Lees Ferry Anglers, Cliff Dwellers Lodge and Kayak Horseshoe Bend might remain open, continue operations and go fishing with the lodge open for guests. However, after careful consideration, we have decided the prudent and compassionate action for our staff and guests is to temporarily close all business operations as of 5 p.m. today.

We are cancelling all fishing trips, kayak launches, hotel and lodge operations until April 30 at which time we will reevaluate conditions and either reopen or extend our closure.

We are all in this leaky boat together. Please think about fishing, the river and the canyon. We are really going to need your support when this is all behind us. We are keeping all staff on payroll so we will all be here for you when the time is right. Words cannot express how much we are looking forward to shaking your hand and telling you in person how greatly we appreciate seeing you back at Lees Ferry. In the meantime, be safe and healthy. 

That is exactly the right play.  And I believe that this market, when it rebounds, which it surely will, will reward those who sacrifice for the greater good now.  You can count on the fact that Angling Trade will.

One last point of punctuation.  It’s just fishing.  Sure, we hold it sacred, special, and it is part of all of us… but it’s a recreational activity.  Think about the doctors and nurses and EMTs and others in New York City, and what their professional lives look like right now before you drive 100 miles to a river to get your Ya-Ya’s out, or load up your Instagram feed, or whatever, by pulling on a tiny animal through a graphite stick and a strand of monofilament… and then consider whether or not that’s an insult to people who are literally laying their lives on the line right now.  Symbolically, if nothing else, solidarity means staying home.

In sum, Angling Trade’s position relative to that elephant in the room: Fishing is great, done alone, or with household members.  We encourage hyper-local fishing, whenever possible.  Social distancing is a must, and every angler should adhere to exactly what their state and the CDC advises, without question.  We don’t think people should drive far to fish, and we don’t think guides and shops should invite people from affected urban areas to rural areas to fish. We encourage E-commerce, community, and the broader exchange of information and ideas. We’re in it for the long haul, and lives matter most now.  We’re going to throw our strongest support on the other side of this to those who act most responsibly now.

Be smart and safe, and protect yourselves and your families.

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9 Comments

  1. Solid advice I am a guide and run a lodge I am shut down until covid 19 is under control and it’s safe to travel and interact with the world. It’s the only responsible thing to do.

  2. Mark Christiansen on

    After reading the article I have shared below, do you really think he nailed it?

    I guess I am getting old, or more responsible;-)

    I would love to go fish, but do not live on a lake or by a river. But one should ask themselves are they willing to expose others for their choice to go fishing. As they say shi# happens. Take some time and read this article and see how someones choice to enjoy the outdoors impacted many others is ways you might not have thought about. I will be sharing this article with folks like you that think it is OK to go out and do something that is not essential.

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2410862/backcountry-skiing-covid-19

    Help me understand how your article is helping folks to make the correct choice. It is a resounding yes that we all should be staying home and stop spreading the virus. Local walks and local fishing that will not endanger others when an accident happens. Why should you be able to drive somewhere to go fish when I am following what is right and do not take that same drive. I thought we are all in this together?? I feel you need to evolve some more, unless I am missing something, you are real close in providing the correct actions, but close is not going to help us get through this time very quickly.

    I found this article in a mail from Trout Unlimited and wondering if my donations are going to the correct Org? I figured I should post a reply to the source before going to TU to understand why they would promote this article as I feel and so do most of the experts out there that we should be staying home unless it is essential(fishing is not essential, unless you need it for feeding yourself) do you really need to expose others and get exposed to others.

    Are we really in this together??

    • All I tried to do was offer some credible advice from a doctor, to help steer people toward responsible decisions, depending on the rules in place where they live and their own consciences. I think 99 percent of the people got it for how it was intended (we will update). And if you read closely, my default was to err on the side of caution. To suggest otherwise and even to suggest holding out from a conservation organization based on a piece the was intended to help people be safe and make responsible decisions… I absolutely trust fly anglers… is shameful. A new all time low. But you be safe.

    • Mr. Christiansen,

      I’m sure your heart is in the right place, and—like you (and like Kirk)—I feel we should err on the side of caution. But you wrote that we should encourage “local fishing that will not endanger others when an accident happens.” And it seems that is the same conclusion Kirk reached.

      Megan’s story was about backcountry skiing, in some of the most avalanche-prone terrain in the country. Having a bit of history with both, I assure you flyfishing is more akin to getting groceries than to skiing Teton Pass.

      I also have some history with Matt Hansen, the man Megan quotes from Teton County Search and Rescue. And when Hansen says we need to respect the current situation and “embrace the casual”—pretty sure that’s skier-code for flyfishing.

  3. Hey Kirk thanks for the update. And thanks again for the blurb in my new book. For anyone experiencing discomfort during these times of crisis you are not alone! The new term for this is Pandemic Grief. Losing lifestyle is loss and loss is loss! We all need to grieve! Over the years nature and the river have been the best places for me to do that. However, so many green and blue spaces have been closing lately ( I hear rivers in Montana are off limits??!!)). This makes it hard to get our nature fix, at least for me. Living in LA, all concrete and no river makes John a dull boy! Here we cannot fish the beaches or hike the trails; they’re all shut down (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-ocean-swimming-surfing-safe-beaches-los-angeles).
    My book talks a lot about the process I’ve gone through accepting loss and how the river and the sea have bouyed me through those times. When I can’t be with you on the water, you remain in my heart! Tight Lines and Blessings! JD

  4. Joshua Fishman on

    I very much appreciate this piece. That being said, I’m not sure I understand the point about not driving far/going to rural communities. If I’m in a major city, the chances of coming into contact with someone are MUCH higher if I recreate locally; assuming I have some chance of being infected, that’s a higher risk I have of passing it to someone else. Even just walking on a local sidewalk involves far more risk of contact than driving somewhere an hour away. I understand that rural communities want to keep potential risks out, but why does that justify putting others at far greater risk by remaining in dense urban areas?
    As for the point about accidents — surely the greatest risk of hurting someone else comes from the accident itself, not the incidental risk of Covid-19 transmission associated with it. As such, your argument ought to weigh against traveling to recreate in and of itself, not just during the current crisis. Cars kill, and driving inherently entails taking the lives of others into one’s own hands. Do you believe that ought to way against travelling to fish — does it weigh against travelling to fish for you — under normal circumstances?

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